Searching the Net

2000//01/11

Yet another outdated page I have here. That's okay in this case. I am still using Copernic 2001 Pro. It does the job.

Dvorak has said good things about Profusion. I should check it out.


2000//01/28

I have heard good things about a program called BullsEye by Intelliseek, but never checked it out. I see they now have a product called BullsEye 2. I really ought to check it out. I see they also have another version called BullsEye Pro. Not cheap at $149. Ouch!!

2000//01/28

I finally got around to buying Copernic 2000. I kept debating whether to pay for the Pro or Plus or go with the free one for a while. I remembered how much I liked Copernic99 and that my time was the real issue. This way I won't have to mess with upgrading later.

I have some things to search for now and will give it a try. Just did! Pretty nice. Wonder why more people don't seem to be using these tools. They have done a good job.

2000//01/25

I have decided to go ahead and just buy and download the Pro version of Copernic 2000. I was very pleased with Copernic99 Plus and would have used it everyday and all day if it weren't for the fact that I had a very unstable install on my last machine. Things are working great on the new machine and I don't foresee any problems.

I will let you know how the program performs, but unfortunately will not be able to compare it to the Plus and free versions of the program as I don't have the time to try them. Nor do I have time to research or test other software. I guess I can use Copernic for the research.

Infoseek Express, something I mentioned a long time ago was recently mentioned in another magazine I am not even sure if I tried it out. Thinking that before I shell out 80 bucks for Copernic 2000 I ought to give free stuff a try, I checked out the site. That is a not a product. It's all about selling ads. They have a special page for advertisers: See what your eyeballs are worth. I am surprised that page is so easy to reach.

I am getting off-topic here. I'll have to pass on the purchase, download and installation of Copernic 2000 for tonight. Probably a good time to sleep.

2000//01/24

I used Copernic99 last year and was very pleased with it. I am about to install it on my new machine as I migrate my applications over. They have a new version called Copernic 2000 and and it comes in 3 flavors: Standard (free), Plus ($25.95) and Pro ($79.95). Of course I want the Plus version, but I would rather not pay that much, at least without shopping around to see what is new and improved out there.

Time to go check out BotSpot.


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1999/03/05

Downloaded Copernic99 a few minutes ago. May get to it later tonight.

Search Engine Watch seems to be a nice site for keeping up with this stuff. I subscribed to their monthly newsletter the other day and the March issue just arrived. Interesting stuff. Read up on something called Direct Hit.

1999/02/24

Two new software apps that I want to check out read about them in the March issue of PC Computing. I am in no hurry to try either of them
Infoseek Express http://express.infoseek.com/
Transcom Software Beeline http://www.transcomsoft.com/beeline/

1999/02/23

Getting off topic a bit here, but I see that John Dvorak of PC Mag has created his own personal portal. This really makes sense. No graphics, small fonts to pack a lot in and you leave it on your machine so it loads a lot faster. I am going to work on something like this for myself.

I am also closer to tracking down the other app that I mentioned yesterday.  Talked to someone else today that stopped by their booth at Comdex. I have to wonder how serious a company is about selling a product if the don't at least make sure they are listed at Yahoo! I don't think I see them there.

The other booth that I stopped by was Inforian, which has Inforian Quest 99. I used it - an older version that is - almost daily for about a month last year. Wonder what happened? I guess it must have expired on me. <g> I wonder if anything has changed besides the number at the end? I can't find a release date on their site. And I don't see a list of added features or fixes. I guess I could try the 30-day trial. By the way, it supports Japanese.

I was also trying to remember which program it was that uses your web browser as it's interface. It's Copernic 98   I saw the screenshots at their site. (Wonder why more companies don't have them?) Might be time to give it another look. And I will have to read what the Plus version has to offer. I think it mainly allows you to search more places. I usually by the Plus/Pro version of any program that I like, but I also like to think that there will be some future releases coming up. It seems that this program hasn't been updated for a while. Last date in their Press Room is October 1998.

Just thought of something. Since I talked about this stuff at that meeting last year I have found myself using a few more search sites that I may not have given much mention and ought to add them somewhere. For now I will just put the names and URLs.
Ask Jeeves! http://www.askjeeves.com/
Inference Find  http://infind.inference.com/ same as http://www.infind.com/ ?
Husky Search  http://huskysearch.cs.washington.edu/
Northern Light  http://www.northernlight.com/power.html

And a few not really tried:
Dogpile http://www.dogpile.com/
Google http://www.google.com/ Used to be at: http://google.stanford.edu/

And it is probably about time that I took a look at what's going on with BotSpot. These guys used to send me a newsletter, but I haven't gotten it for a long time. I may have unsubscribed last summer before taking a trip. I see they now have a biweekly newsletter for $19.95 per year in addition to the free monthly newsletter. Info is here.

Rereading my notes from last year and have a few comments. Alexa is up to version 3.0.x. http://www.alexa.com/. You don't hear much talk about them, but it is a useful tool for quickly getting some information on a site and see some similar or somehow linked sites.

One relatively new program that I would like to check out is called Mata Hari at: http://www.thewebtools.com/ At least they have some screenshots there. Hard to tell what it's like.

And nothing much new with NewsMonger, the newsgroup searching software that I got excited about last year. (http://www.techsmith.com/). But I am pretty impressed with the way Microplanet Gravity, a newsreader, searches not only the headers, but also the bodies of newsgroup messages. Why didn't anyone tell me about this? But here again, there has been no news on their site for months.

Drifting and need some sleep.

1999/02/22

I remember stopping by a couple of booths at Comdex. I wonder if I can find these companies. I think one of them was Inforian, the makers of Inforian Quest. I thought they were updating there software, but it's hard to tell.

The other was a Canadian company that had a product that incorporated an atlas, encyclopedia so you could search both. One thing I liked about it was that it used your browser as the interface so you wouldn't have to switch back and forth between windows.

1999/02/21

I just went through some of these links. Can someone tell me why these programs seem to be disappearing or not getting updated. Searching the Net seems kind of important to me. I would think that there would be a market for a good offline search tool, something that runs on your machine and checks a bunch of sites, checks the validity of the links and is a lot faster.

A good one makes you more productive. I would be willing to pay for one. I want to spend some time on this stuff and see what I can find. If you want to help me out, please drop send me an email and I will try to keep plugging away at it.

I certainly have spent a lot of time at the shopping comparison sites and some of them are pretty nice.
Computers
http://www.pricescan.com/
http://www.killerapp.com/
http://www.shopper.com/
http://www.pricewatch.com/
http://www.kakaku.com/ (Japanese)
http://www.streetprices.com/
http://www.pricenetwork.com/
http://www.pricetrac.com/
http://www.deal-pc.com/
http://www.bigc.com/
http://www.cortix.com/
http://www.pdapage.com/
http://www.computershopper.com/
Yahoo
Books:
http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Books/Shopping_and_Services/Book_Search_Services/Price_Comparisons/

For a quick start:
Search Engine Watch: http://searchenginewatch.com/
Online: http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Internet_Services/Search_and_Navigation/ )
Software: http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Computers/Software/Internet/Search/
Reviews: http://www.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Software/Reviews/Titles/Internet/Search_Tools/
Metasearches: http://dir.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Internet/World_Wide_Web/Searching_the_Web/All_in_One_Search_Pages/
Prices: http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Computers/Retailers/Price_Guides/


Warning: Anything below this line is really old and just my notes that I put here to get at.



Old notes start here...

TPC - NetSearching 98/06 Meeting

Searching the Net: Engines and Agents

Intro:
- No PowerPoint
- NetPad as note-organizer and presenter
- why this topic? Why not! Good start
- who Pat, Me and YOU!
- I'm sure that I've left a lot out
- a bit of history
- advantages of each.
- display okay?


Online - 'called search engines'

+AND "quotes" -minus OR? wildcards
powersearch, refine, use old database
Yahoo, Webcrawler, Lycos
Money from ads, some are bias
they all want to be portals now (Netscape, AltaVista)
here general, other for people, graphics, sounds, news, mailing lists

General

Yahoo http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search/options
- can choose Yahoo/AltaVista, email addresses, Usenet
- if no result go to other

AltaVista http://altavista.digital.com/
-link:http://www.tpc.ml.org/ TPC, Sigi
Webcrawler http://www.webcrawler.com/
Excite
http://www.excite.com
Lycos
http://www.lycos.com/
InfoSeek http://www.infoseek.com
Northern Light http://www.northernlight.com/
DejaNews http://www.dejanews.com/ (Usenet)
-- Find out who started that thread.
(1) who first mentioned Hank the Angry Drunken Dwarf
(2) who first broke the news of the Pentium hang-up bug.
-- Also this is good for doing personality profiles on people. If some posts a stupid message find out all the other groups that he is posting under. Example:

--- Sigi Rindler
Hotbot http://www.hotbot.com/
Google http://google.stanford.edu/ (now is at: http://www.google.com/ ?)
Four11 http://www.four11.com/

Metasearches
- http://www.albany.net/allinone/
- http://www.beaucoup.com/engines.html

InterNIC Whois? http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois

Group the results of other search engines results...
whttp://www.inference.com/ifind/
http://www.metacrawler.com

Japanese:
Infoseek http://www.infoseek.co.jp/

News: (news news)
http://www.wired.com/newbot/
(sw)
http://www.newshub.com

Price Comparison sites:
http://www.pricescan.com
http://www.computeresp.com
http://www.pricewatch.com
http://www.netbuyer.com
http://www.killerapp.com
http://www.kakaku.com

Misc:
- Usenet
- mailing lists
- dictionaries
- special databases
- also Yahoo People etc search for looking up US telephone numbers, addresses. Finding who peoples neighbours are. What the Make Money Fast Scammers phone numbers are <g>
- Free Translation Service. English <-> French <-> German etc.
- Yellow Pages
- stocks
- classifieds

Software:
Things to look for:
-
where does it search? quality and quantity
- customizable?
- speed, how soon do you get some usable results
- cost?
- support
- search + download +sort +rank +refine
- changing: come and go; try a later version

ZurfRider
-
http://www.zurf.com/home/
- version 1.01
- trial: 50 searches
- comments: cool music
- cons: not being really enhanced

WebFerret (Pro/Suite/free)
-
http://www.ferretsoft.com/netferret/
- WebFerret is free and excellent (sw)
- Pro costs
- latest Pro: version 2.6102 (released 4/17/98)
- part of PowerPack $49.95

Inforia Quest 98
- http://www.inforian.com/quest/
- free 30-day trial (+30 if you register)
- $24.95 for electronic version ($29.95 box)
- was Inforia
- works in Japanese, etc.
- latest: 1.23ET
- Inforian Quest Deluxe: "Internet Hunter and Oflline Browser"
- warning: takes up space on HDD

Copernic 98 (Plus) by Agent Technologies
-
http://www.copernic.com/
- There is a free version
- Plus version is: $29.95

WebCompass 2.0 by Quarterdeck
- http://www.qdeck.com/qdeck/products/webcompass/
- $49.95 trialware (2.03) available
- no longer being developed?? reviews, etc. are old!

Internet FastFind by Symantec
-
discontinued
- these guys make me sick!
- trial: http://www.pcworld.com/cgi-bin/database/file_body.pl?ID=2453

SearchPad by Satyam Spark Solutions

- http://www.searchpad.com
- 1.1 R2
- 1.0 sucked!

WebSleuth by Prompt Software
- http://www.promptsoftware.com/
- tried, soso

WebSeeker 3.3 by BlueSquirrel
- http://www.bluesquirrel.com/seeker/
- was by ForeFront
- $49.95

*SearchWolf / WebWolf by damned if I know
- http://www.msw.com.au/webwolf/index.html
- http://www.cyber-squall.com/msw/
- latest: 2.03
- $25
- not tested

Hurricane WebSearch by Gate Comm
- http://www.gatecomm.com/websearch/
- latest: 1.1
- $14.95
- not tested

WebStorm by SharpWare
- http://www.sharpeware.com/html/webstorm.html
- v 2.1
- $34
- not tested

WhoIsNot
- http://www.chami.com/whoisnot/ (offline whois?)
- not taking registrations now.
- 3.0A 10/9/97

Newsmonger TechSmith
- http://www.techsmith.com/
- 1.5.1
- 39.95; 45-day trial
- NICE, many features, fast
- uses AltaVista's engine,
- you can post, too

NewsFerret
- see NetFerret
- sucks compared with newsmonger; too simple
- searches your own newserver - that could be good/bad


Other:

Alexa
http://www.alexa.com
- 1.4m ? (1.1 was buggy)
- shows links to similar sites, runs on your machine.
- you can rank, add URLs, see how busy

Real Agents
http://www.wired.com/newbot/personal_agent.html
(sw)

For more on bots:
http://www.botspot.com/


Conclusion:
- what's for you? You decide
- try them, study them with usual caution
- a useful skill; you probably won't regret testing
- learning one helps with others
- check http://www.botspot.com/ and Yahoo, etc.
- future: search and buy, better sorting, you name, subscriber
- know what you are looking for and stay focused

My favorites:
- NewsMonger - worth it all for this one!!!
- Yahoo
- Inforian Quest 98

Get searched:
<META> tag that lets search engines know
the keywords that you want your page to be registered under